Angling lines looking for more money

heading to margot on the 27 this month have it booked
exclusive had it paid for in full in january ferrys booked and paid
when tuesday morn gone we get a letter from Angling Lines
looking for more money even though they had sent
us the receipt a couple months ago saying paid in full thanks.
looking for more money because the euro is so good against the sterling
that they were losing money in the transaction converting it over even though when we paid the euro was weak at 82cent or there abouts i know the recessions in but fcuk that and no two ways about it either we pay it or we wont be fishing the lake they said and our money is non refundable pullin a scam or what????? what do ye think that?????
needless to say wont be booking with ANGLING LINES again

that doesn't sound to legit,I'm no legal eagle but i would be seeking advice
on that one,some of the lads who have traveled abroad a lot may know the ins and outs of these things,have you tried contacting Gareth (hes a member on the site)
Hi there
As some of you are off to Margot soon, thought you might like to see the post I've made on my Blog following my visit to the venue this week.

http://www.anglinglines.com/blog/etang-de-margot-update-march-2008/

Cheers
Gareth
you could try ringing the citizens advice board
http://www.citizensinformationboard.ie/
they may have a legal whizz kid that could help.
hope it works out

Thats a rip - post it on all the big uk forums and any other carp forum for that matter!

were talking to a BRIDGET KEEP over the matter was on the fone for the guts of an hour and got really no where as such only if we dont pay the extra few quid we wont be getting access to the lake needless to say the 7 of us werent to happy to get the letter and it said at the bottom this replaces any other receipts or documents u have already!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As far as I'd be concerned, a receipt is given when a transaction is
concluded. You paid X amount to book and hire the lake exclusive, they
gave you a receipt when the whole lot was paid. End of. They requested an amount for a service, you paid in full, that's all about it. The currency fluctuation is not your problem.

http://www.anglinglines.com/blog/ask-angling-lines/

if every member on this site filled in this ask the question blog
as to why the price has changed i wonder would there be an
explanation.

indeed paul thats what we thought and it isnt our fault
thats the arguement we had today but it kept fallen to selective hearing
only hearing what they want plus RORY and DAVE the lads that got the grief over there last year were told they were getting a 15% discount when they would be doing a return trip didnt get it their on the lake 2 weeks or that after us?????? i know the saying desperate times makes for desperate measures but bollox to that she gave some lame excuse about they keep the money in some account for x amount of time or something to that effect before they give it to who ever they do and they lost out changing it over so weve to foot the bill for them or we dont get to fish simple as??????

Only one way to find out Bud. Shall we fill their inbox?

Regarding them keeping their money in the a/c for a period, if their ways of doing business aren't up to scratch then once again it's not your fault. We're going in 6 weeks, god help them if we get the same tripe.

is this to do with the extra fish put in the lake:?: ring up and put the hammer on them doesnt sound to good on the rip as fair as im consernd

dont worry paul itll cost them more in the long run dont worry i filled out that blog see what shite they come back if they do that is?????

Do they think we,re backward or what ,bad enough when our own crowd
are ripping us off
myself,paul c,pat mac,flanders and a few others were thinking of returning
next year as we had an excellent trip on there a couple of years back but i think we should sit back and see the outcome of this
I dont envy the predicament your in ,i know i,d probably pay rather than
miss the weeks fishing as like me your probably looking forward to the week away for ages

if you booked through angling lines your contract is with angling lines
and not with the lake owners,their contract is with angling lines and any
dispute over money should be between them,like i said before there is no
point in second guessing,get a solicitor to have a look at it,and yes Paul
if its not resolved quickly we should fill in the box,whats to stop them trying it with every trip booked,the thought of lost revenue and future
bookings might help the lads cause.

why didnt they come up with it a few weeks ago instead of leaving till 2 weeks before we get there??? ya might have some sit back about it and especially the way this recessions in its hard to get up the few quid to go anyway in the first place without having to pay for their mistakes aswell???? especially and it my first trip to france its not starting out to well to say the least!!!!!!!!!!!

shane one of the lads going on the trip was onto citizens advice today
and apparently its in the small print and they can do it its in their rules not much we can do so he told me to tell any of ye going or thinking of booking to read the small print carefully just off the fone to him

just think lots of big carp and close your eyes:afro:

dont worry ferret keep the head annd mop up luck of the irish will be there

What ever the rate of exchange was between the euro and sterling at the time of you finalising your part of the deal is the price you must pay.
They can not come back on to you and say it's changed so we want more money.
Don't go and see them in court I'd say.

We went with them last year and they rang me 2 or 3 weeks before hand telling me the lake we had booked was getting swims put in and was also flooded, so we had to go else where (some service).
We got sent to another lake that was a pure disaster, we were even locked out of it for the first night of our trip. The bait turned up a few days late.
I have not and don't think I will ever use their service again, you can get on to most of their lakes for cheaper if you just contact them your self.


I'll PM Gareth about this and we can see what he has to say about it.

cheers tom we ringing back in the morn again see what other shite they come up with to us:roll:

Mail sent NP

that doesnt sound to good tom wats up them was thinkin of goin next year but its of the cards now shower of muppets new fish more money money money make a quick few quid

and the funny part of it theres the price of a car crossing in the price which weve had to pay ourselves extra anyway so their up that extra money straight away. talk about when ya get an ass ride him altogether??????

You cant do anything in this case, you will have to pay, or cancel the trip and gamble on a refund.
The cost of pursuing this legally will far outwiegh the return, if you can find anyone willing to take it on!

The best hope is to ask, and keep asking, also try posting on other internet forums, Cemex, Carp Forum ect.

Fantastic front to ask your customers to be responsable for exchange rate fluctuations, one for Mr O'leary to pick up on..........very poor show Angling lines! Build it in your costs, and charge more, customers hate bad supprisses!

I have recieved a mail from Gareth and have explained the situation.
I'll let you know the out come of it when I do.
If it was me FPB I'd ring mooney on RTE1 on Monday and 4 and the bloke on from the CAB should know the score.

cheers tom i see gareth logged in few times today and hasnt posted any sort of a reply mustve ran out of excuses?

as regards to what paul mentioned earlier in his post about island lake. i think you`ll find it`s down to what the lake owner in question charges angling lines ie in euro or sterling. if their arragement is in sterling then i think you might be alright but if it`s in euro then there will be a difference. margot is owned by M bigot (ie a french man) and he more then likely wants his money in euro so there is a short fall in the present change over. which would not have been the case when the arragement between both parties was made. if the owner of island lake is english or accepts his/hers payments in sterling there should not be any short fall or loss as there is no currency change over.(ie you`ve paid anglinglines in sterling and they will be paying the lake owner in sterling) i hope for your sake i`m right. in brigueuil we charge in euro so this has not affected us too much and most of our clients are french irish spanish dutch german etc so it`s not a problem. with the current difference between sterling and euro anglinglines would not only be losing money but would be subsidising some of these holidays, by the time they paid the lake owners. but FPB`s point about ferry prices being inculded in the price for english clients and not irish is very valid. we raised this point with them before when a few of us where going to margot or de boux (i can`t remember which)and i think that briget got us a reduction with P&O. i don`t think they do a direct sailing to france anymore. what you should ask them to do FPB`s is to get a account/arragement with Irish ferries. you`ll never get it in the lake price as the ferries from ireland are far more expensive then the channel crossing . but you might get a few quid off