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andy d
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PostSubject: New lake    New lake  Icon_minitimeSun Oct 21 2012, 12:06

Here is some thing that is in the back of my mind this while now I have. A few acres out me back and I'd like to dig out a lake does any one know do you need planing for this type of project I'm not going to ask the council because they will try to screw money out if it some how. It's just a question maybe some one might have an idea
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david dolan
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PostSubject: Re: New lake    New lake  Icon_minitimeSun Oct 21 2012, 12:49

Wants hidden from view Fcuk them , put up a few round bails and dig away but if your near a river or stream you might get into a bit of crap of the fisheries !!
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PostSubject: Re: New lake    New lake  Icon_minitimeSun Oct 21 2012, 12:56

Plus I think anything under 8 acres is considered a pond and I doubt you need planning for a pond could be wrong tho !!
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PostSubject: lake   New lake  Icon_minitimeSun Oct 21 2012, 13:11

I'd defo take the planning route... I think the fact that you are changing the flora and fauna of an area, it defo needs planning permission.
And if you went to the hassle and expense and got rumbled, you would be pretty pissed off to have to fill it in again.

I am sure though that there are areas you could persue that would would take the pinch out of it. small enough as a garden feature ? couple of acres ?
But you will have to do a fair bit of planning, not as easy as it looks.

I am no expert on these things but just a thought
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PostSubject: Re: New lake    New lake  Icon_minitimeSun Oct 21 2012, 13:22

Can I build a pond, path, decking or landscaping works without permission?
Yes. Provided that the ground level not be altered by more than 1 metre above or below the level of adjoining ground. Alteration of ground level to front of house is not permitted other than for landscaping.

http://www.dlrcoco.ie/aboutus/councildepartments/planning/faqs/
http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/housing/planning_permission/planning_permission_general.html

id give the citizens advice center a call on it,they should point you in the right direction
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PostSubject: Re: New lake    New lake  Icon_minitimeSun Oct 21 2012, 13:49

Cheers ill take all that on board. It's all farm land and the digging is no hassle we have cleared bigger sites off on sites over the years I reckon between 4 and 5 acres its what to do with the sub soil. Top soil can be spread across the other field that's no problem
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PostSubject: Re: New lake    New lake  Icon_minitimeSun Oct 21 2012, 13:53

andy d wrote:
Cheers ill take all that on board. It's all farm land and the digging is no hassle we have cleared bigger sites off on sites over the years I reckon between 4 and 5 acres its what to do with the sub soil. Top soil can be spread across the other field that's no problem

you could always do a great escape job with it, in the pocket and shake it out down the local pub Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: New lake    New lake  Icon_minitimeSun Oct 21 2012, 13:59

Ill keep that in mind
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PostSubject: Re: New lake    New lake  Icon_minitimeSun Oct 21 2012, 14:35

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2001/en/si/0600.html#sched2

Schedule 2 Part 1 lists all the developments which are exempt from planning permission so if the construction of a lake is not listed, then more than likely it will need planning permission.

I know a Planner and I'll ask him tomorrow if you want. He doesn't work in Louth so no worries there!!

Another way of doing it is to find out what other commercial waters have done. The likes of Toomans etc that have opened in recent years with newly dug lakes will surely be able to advise on what they did. http://www.toomanfisheries.com/
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PostSubject: Re: New lake    New lake  Icon_minitimeSun Oct 21 2012, 14:41

Cheers fin. That would be a help
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PostSubject: Re: New lake    New lake  Icon_minitimeSun Oct 21 2012, 17:38

If its on farm land and its for personal use and wants it not on flood plains , in England anyways you dont need planning !!
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PostSubject: Re: New lake    New lake  Icon_minitimeMon Oct 22 2012, 06:42

I would be interested in the outcome of this.

I have been planning to purchase 18 acres of farmland out the back of my house for a few years and put in a 5-6 acre lake with shower/ toilet block and maybe some log cabins as a business.

I have written to inland fisheries multiple times looking for info on planing, fishing rights, impact study on the adjoining stream which i planned to use as an overflow from themonk etc and never had a response back. Kind of shelved the idea for now when the land went up to 10k per acre which is insane for the quality of land (high clay content and floods easilly).

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